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What is going on with the Charts??

Discussion in 'Chart chat and lists' started by kinkykylie, 5 May 2012.

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  1. kinkykylie New Member

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    What a good topic to start on.. What has happened to the charts? Do they really matter anymore? With single sales on the decline what should be done to re-ignite the spark the charts used to have..

    Personally I think the 'so and so feat so and so' should tail off and camp pop should retake its rightful place as the ruler.. But that's just my opinion..

    What's yours?
    kinkykylie, 5 May 2012
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  2. H.T. Disco queen

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    Back in the mists of time I would hear a song and have a pretty good guess whether it would be a hit (possibly a slight exaggeration...). Now I hear a song like Do it in the AM by Frankmusik and think its going to be a massive hit and it does nothing. I've lost touch! Seems to me that there is a certain production (eg Tulisa), song structure, with an urban twist that dominates singles charts - obviously with exceptions. I think this is driven by the fact that song rotations on radio are generally becoming more and more rigid. Same song is often played twice in 2 hours on Kiss or Capital. They are so focussed on keeping a v young audience that anything "old" - even Madonna Girl gone Bad which has exactly the "right" production - like, say, Be With You by Erasure,don't get played. Radio 1 is just talking and "fashionable" shit so doesn't lead the charge like it used to.

    There is no one singles chart like there used to be. On music TV they all have their own charts often including "hot" pre-releases. itunes - which is prob dominant chart - includes album tracks not officially released as singles. They need a proper singles chart where only tracks which have been officially released as singles can be included. We need a Top of the Pops back - which could be shown multi-media so those unused to TV ("kidz") can watch. Older people need to start buying music - many have become put off by technology. Boffins need to do better at stopping illegal downloads.

    The plus side to itunes is that in theory it should crack down on "filler". If they want to sell an album it better all be good. Jennifer Lopez and Beyonce haven't heard about this yet.

    I agree that camp pop, disco and hi-nrg should rule the air again but I fear it won't happen. Boo hoo!!!
    H.T., 5 May 2012
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  3. H.T. Disco queen

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    This is what we want!!!!

    H.T., 5 May 2012
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  4. Silvan Administrator

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    I love that song, it's very 'Cher', but it felt totally out of place in the movie.

    On the charts thing, it's a weird one. It's nice that old songs can make a reappearance on the (iTunes) charts, but they do seem to be taken over by TV formats like the music contests (The Voice, X Factor) and shows like Glee. They take away from the new-ness in the charts.

    Then again, I find this model of premiering a song and releasing it (to purchase) two months later pretty annoying. You want to buy the song when it comes out and it makes the charts feel like old news and not that relevant. The American charts are a lot more dynamic as they do simultaneously release the song and include air play and streaming.
    Silvan, 5 May 2012
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  5. mgi86 New Member

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    chers new albums due soon ain't it ? still waiting for the gaga duet to be released too .
    I'm all for camp pop its good and uplifting :)
    mgi86, 6 May 2012
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  6. kinkykylie New Member

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    With Steps looking likely to sign a new album deal sooner rather than later, I don't think it will be long before camp pop hits our charts, then there is the Sclub reunion.. Kylie's new stuff for next year.. Take That at the end of 2013.. Looks set to be a pop filled year.. Yahooooo..
    kinkykylie, 6 May 2012
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  7. Silvan Administrator

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    Well, it's not a complete overhaul fo the charts, but the Official Charts Company are to launch the UK’s first official streaming chart. It's a chart on its own.

    Each week a top 100 rundown will be announced, launching next Monday May 14. The chart is compiled with data from the nation’s leading streaming services, ranking audio streams from both ad-funded and subscription streaming services in the UK.

    The first Official Streaming Top 100 will be unveiled at 1pm on Monday 14th May 2012 at OfficialCharts.com. It will also be published weekly in music industry business title Music Week and feature on the streaming services contributing to the chart each week.

    The most-streamed tracks of the year so far is 'Somebody That I Used To Know' by Gotye, David Guetta ft. Sia’s 'Titanium' and Jessie J’s 'Domino'.

    The charts is compiled from information contributed by a range of services including Spotify, We7, Napster, Deezer, Zune (X Box Live) and ChartsNow.

    While streaming is becoming bigger and bigger, with an estimated 2.6bn audio streams delivered in the UK last
    year, the actual revenues to the music industry only made up a small 4.5% of of total revenues.

    Official Most-Streamed Artists 2012 to date (April 28)
    1 ED SHEERAN
    2 LANA DEL REY
    3 DAVID GUETTA
    4 RIHANNA
    5 COLDPLAY
    6 GOTYE
    7 JESSIE J
    8 EMELI SANDE
    9 FLORENCE & THE MACHINE
    10 DRAKE
    Silvan, 10 May 2012
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    OFFICIAL CHART UPDATE: 13 May 2012
    R.I.P is the first UK release to be lifted from Rita’s upcoming, as-yet-untitled debut album,
    which will be released later this year. The Kosovan-born singer is touring with DJ Fresh on his
    UK tour throughout May.

    Tulisa slips into second place with Young, while former chart-topper Carly Rae Jepsen’s
    Call Me Maybe is at Number 3. Alex Clare’s Too Close (4) continues to climb up the Official
    Singles Chart since its release five weeks ago, while Fun and Janelle Monae’s We Are
    Young slips from Number 3 to Number 5.

    New entries and high climbers
    With guest vocals from chart throb Justin Bieber, Far East Movement score their third Top
    20 single with Live My Life which is new in at Number 7, while Matrix & Futurebound FT
    Luke Bingham’s All I Know is new in at 29. Labrinth’s Express Yourself is at 34 while
    Bieber’s Turn To You makes an appearance at 39.

    Emeli Sande’s My Kind Of Love debuts on the Official Singles Chart at Number 24
    following her performance on the BBC’s hit reality TV show The Voice last weekend. The
    Voice is also responsible for The Temper Trap’s Sweet Disposition, which was covered by
    David Julien on the show, climbs 27 places to Number 26.
    Silvan, 13 May 2012
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  9. Geraint Administrator

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    Personally I stopped truly caring about UK charts in the mid to late '90s - showing my age here - when multi-formatting resulted in crazy peaks and dizzying lows. Even at 16, when I Worked in a record shop (remember them?) I thought that shit was crazy. When labels could more easily influence a top 5 placing by releasing 2 CDS and a 7 inch vinyl at 99p per purchase (maybe a cassingle as well!)

    Now that 2xCD sets have been replaced with downloads, things are arguably a bit more democratic - if people like something, they'll download it for 59p, 79p, 99p etc. (The price issue is a separate debate, but when has music ever been fairly priced...)

    What I dislike now is this new era where people release several different videos and tracks all at once (See Nicki Minaj, Beyonce, Gaga, Taylor Swift and many more) just to see what sticks. I totally loathe the terms 'buzz track' and 'promo single' - what does any of that mean? And why make a posh video for something that allegedly isn't a 'real' single?
    Geraint, 15 May 2012
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  10. Rhian White New Member

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    Zab Braff just posted... "I wish Gotye's girlfriend had never screwed him over. I'm tired of hearing about it."

    I kind of agree with him - although it is a good song every time that video comes on to the TV or online I have to switch over. However, in his defence Gotye is one of many few independent artists to break on such a huge scale - and respect to him.

    I think that the charts are so manipulated by the 'major labels' with TV, radio and online PR that people are brainwashed in to buying what they think they should like.
    Rhian White, 18 May 2012
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